<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491</id><updated>2012-01-31T13:31:39.216-08:00</updated><category term='ateismi hitler stalin'/><category term='usko kirjat'/><category term='Christopher Hitchens'/><category term='ID science religion'/><category term='usko jeesus aurinko'/><category term='The Prayer of Obedience and Blind Faith'/><category term='usko huumori'/><category term='ateism'/><category term='usko'/><category term='ateismi'/><category term='ID'/><category term='god gid'/><category term='Jeesus'/><category term='richard dawkins'/><category term='sam harris the end of faith'/><category term='ateismi usko onni'/><category term='raamattu usko jumala'/><category term='kirkko uskonto valtio'/><category term='usko jumala uskonto'/><category term='usko uskonto'/><category term='religion usko uskonto jumala'/><category term='uhri'/><category term='vanha testamentti usko uskonto jeesus'/><category term='evangelist usko uskonto'/><category term='meemit uskonto meme faith'/><category term='dawkins religion atheism'/><title type='text'>Ateismista ja uskosta</title><subtitle type='html'>Lyhyitä kirjoituksia uskosta, uskonnoista ja ateismista.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>41</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-2170457580542461664</id><published>2008-02-03T07:58:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-03T11:48:58.617-08:00</updated><title type='text'>What The World Thinks of God</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/programmes/wtwtgod/pdf/wtwtogod.pdf"&gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/programmes/wtwtgod/pdf/wtwtogod.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;I would die for my God (beliefs).&lt;br /&gt;Agree 52%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-2170457580542461664?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/2170457580542461664/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=2170457580542461664' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/2170457580542461664'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/2170457580542461664'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2008/02/what-world-thinks-of-god.html' title='What The World Thinks of God'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-6946402938252036517</id><published>2007-12-28T06:58:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-12-28T07:02:17.995-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Raamattu, WTF?</title><content type='html'>Mitä ihmettä?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Otsikkona on&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Elisa tekee ihmeen Jerikossa ja Betelissä,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;ja se ihme on pikkupoikien tappaminen.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;"&lt;span&gt;23 Elisa lähti sieltä Beteliin. Kun hän nousi rinnettä, kaupungista tuli pikkupoikia, jotka pitivät häntä pilkkanaan ja huusivat hänelle: "Tule tänne, kaljupää! Tule tänne, kaljupää!" 24 Hän kääntyi katsomaan pilkkaajiaan ja kirosi heidät Herran nimeen. Heti tuli metsästä kaksi karhua, ja ne raatelivat neljäkymmentäkaksi poikaa kuoliaaksi. 25 Elisa jatkoi matkaansa Karmelinvuorelle ja palasi sieltä Samariaan.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2183/1955051032_9a257d4ca8.jpg?v=0" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Aika ihme.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-6946402938252036517?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/6946402938252036517/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=6946402938252036517' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/6946402938252036517'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/6946402938252036517'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/12/raamattu-wtf.html' title='Raamattu, WTF?'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-5788840134683257788</id><published>2007-12-08T02:30:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-12-08T02:34:12.975-08:00</updated><title type='text'>God, the ultimate super-hero</title><content type='html'>:D &lt;br /&gt;Niinpä.&lt;br /&gt;Silti, minun mielestä &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Dog, the dyslexic deity&lt;/span&gt; on jotenkin sympaattisempi.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://crap.teurasporsaat.org/archive/5893.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px;" src="http://crap.teurasporsaat.org/archive/5893.jpg" border="0" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-5788840134683257788?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/5788840134683257788/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=5788840134683257788' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' 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uusin.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/mHh0NdR5Jh0"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/mHh0NdR5Jh0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-6435045316110733922?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/6435045316110733922/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=6435045316110733922' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/6435045316110733922'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/6435045316110733922'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/10/pat-condell.html' title='Pat Condell'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-1216578773707022996</id><published>2007-10-09T11:50:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-09T11:51:31.697-07:00</updated><title type='text'>the Protect Ayaan Hirsi Ali Petition</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;***&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/hirsiali"&gt;http://www.petitiononline.com/hirsiali&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;***&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-1216578773707022996?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/1216578773707022996/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=1216578773707022996' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/1216578773707022996'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/1216578773707022996'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/10/protect-ayaan-hirsi-ali-petition.html' title='the Protect Ayaan Hirsi Ali Petition'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-8675376844652972857</id><published>2007-08-25T05:46:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2007-08-25T05:46:56.752-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Enemies of Reason pt2</title><content type='html'>&lt;embed style="width:400px; height:326px;" id="VideoPlayback" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-4720837385783230047&amp;amp;hl=en" flashvars=""&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-8675376844652972857?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/8675376844652972857/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=8675376844652972857' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/8675376844652972857'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/8675376844652972857'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/08/enemies-of-reason-pt2.html' title='Enemies of Reason pt2'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-4436645628038803480</id><published>2007-08-15T11:30:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-08-15T11:31:50.081-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='god gid'/><title type='text'>God = Gid</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/15/god_appears_in_eggplant_slice/"&gt;God appears in eggplant slice (link).&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sunday evening, as she sliced it up in her kitchen, she saw the word "God" appear in the seeds of one of the slices: &lt;div class="CaptionedImage Center Float"&gt;&lt;img src="http://regmedia.co.uk/2007/08/15/god_eggplant.jpg" alt="An eggplant slice in Pennsylvania " title="An eggplant slice in Pennsylvania" height="266" width="400" /&gt;  &lt;p&gt;An eggplant slice in Pennsylvania&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Though this &lt;em&gt;El Reg&lt;/em&gt; hack is no expert when it comes to eggplants, he's quite sure the seeds spell "gid" - a brain disease caused by tapeworm eggs. Or an acronym for Gender Identity Disorder.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- - - - - -&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Loistavaa!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-4436645628038803480?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/4436645628038803480/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=4436645628038803480' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/4436645628038803480'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/4436645628038803480'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/08/god-gid.html' title='God = Gid'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-466609255093577884</id><published>2007-08-15T10:27:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-08-15T10:28:12.890-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Dawkins - The Enemies of Reason (part 1)</title><content type='html'>&lt;embed style="width:400px; height:326px;" id="VideoPlayback" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=8669488783707640763&amp;hl=en-GB" flashvars=""&gt; &lt;/embed&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-466609255093577884?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/466609255093577884/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=466609255093577884' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/466609255093577884'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/466609255093577884'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/08/dawkins-enemies-of-reason-part-1.html' title='Dawkins - The Enemies of Reason (part 1)'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-3016372982474225281</id><published>2007-08-02T10:35:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-08-02T10:37:59.414-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christopher Hitchens'/><title type='text'>Christopher Hitchens is not god, but he's great!</title><content type='html'>Lou Dobbs interviews Christopher Hitchens author of God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Religion ends and philosophy begins, just as alchemy ends and chemistry begins and astrology ends, and astronomy begins.&lt;/span&gt;"&lt;br /&gt;- Christopher Hitchens&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="350" width="425"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/iZ_l3Utr670"&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/iZ_l3Utr670" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" height="350" width="425"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Erinomainen haastattelu.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-3016372982474225281?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/3016372982474225281/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=3016372982474225281' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/3016372982474225281'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/3016372982474225281'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/08/christopher-hitchens-is-not-god-but-hes.html' title='Christopher Hitchens is not god, but he&apos;s great!'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-6767947956195474083</id><published>2007-07-15T04:57:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-15T05:09:33.953-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='kirkko uskonto valtio'/><title type='text'>Valtionkirkko on siunaus</title><content type='html'>Taisi olla Dawkins, joka esitti, että valtionkirkolla voi olla hyviäkin seuraaamuksia. Ja miksipä ei?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ajatellaan eroja Euroopan ja USAn välillä. USAssa, jossa valtio ja kirkko on erotettu toisistaan (ainakin periaatteessa), uskoa on pitänyt myydä kuin saippuaa. Kaikki mahdolliset ponnistukset ja markkinointikeinot on käytetty, jotta seurakuntien jäsenmäärää ja sitä kautta rahavirtaa ja poliittista painostusvoimaa saataisiin kasvatettua. Tämä voi osaltaan selittää esimerkiksi kreationismin vankan aseman USAssa. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Euroopassa, eritoten Suomessa, valtionkirkkoon on lähes automaattisesti kastettu kaikki. Verotusoikeus on turvannut kirkolle lihavat ajat, joten taistelu sieluista on ollut huomattavasti laiskempaa. Mitäpä sitä yrittämään, maksaa ne kuitenkin. Kirkon propaganda on tästä johtuen ollut huomattavasti laimeampaa ja kirkko on voinut tehdä kaikenlaisia myönnytyksiä yleisen moraalin ja tieteen kulkiessa eteenpäin. Tästä syystä yhteiskunta ja ihmiset ovat päässeet rauhassa maallistumaan.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Olisko nyt kuitenkin aika sanoa 'hei hei' valtionkirkolle, kun se on ikään kuin tehnyt tehtävänsä?&lt;br /&gt;Olisko Suomi huonompi paikka elää, jos esimerkiksi puolet valtionkirkon verotuloista laitettaisiin maalliseen hyväntekeväisyyteen, ilman kiitosvelkaa jumalalle, ja toinen puoli koulutukseen, tutkimukseen, tuotekehittelyyn jne.?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-6767947956195474083?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/6767947956195474083/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=6767947956195474083' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/6767947956195474083'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/6767947956195474083'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/07/valtionkirkko-on-siunaus.html' title='Valtionkirkko on siunaus'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-8610397639664418419</id><published>2007-07-14T13:47:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-14T13:49:44.310-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='raamattu usko jumala'/><title type='text'>WTF?</title><content type='html'>Aina se jaksaa yllättää, raamattu.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"27. nousi Daavid ja lähti miehineen ja kaatoi filistealaisia kaksisataa miestä. Ja &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Daavid toi heidän esinahkansa, täyden määrän&lt;/span&gt;, kuninkaalle, tullaksensa kuninkaan vävyksi. Silloin Saul antoi tyttärensä Miikalin hänelle vaimoksi.&lt;br /&gt;28. Ja Saul näki ja ymmärsi, että H&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;erra oli Daavidin kanssa&lt;/span&gt;"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Häh?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sama &lt;a href="http://www.thebricktestament.com/david_vs_saul/david_mutilates_200_gets_married/1s18_20.html"&gt;The Brick Testament&lt;/a&gt; -versiona.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-8610397639664418419?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/8610397639664418419/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=8610397639664418419' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/8610397639664418419'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/8610397639664418419'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/07/wtf.html' title='WTF?'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-2830726765914708656</id><published>2007-07-14T13:10:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-14T13:13:25.300-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Puhuuko jumala sinulle?</title><content type='html'>Puhuuko jumala sinulle?&lt;br /&gt;Jos puhuu, totteletko?&lt;br /&gt;Olisitko valmis tekemään mitä vain Jeesuksen tai jumalan puolesta?&lt;br /&gt;Olisitko valmis tappamaan?&lt;br /&gt;Eihän jumala voisi sellaista käskeä, eihän?&lt;br /&gt;No voi se, lue raamattusi.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-2830726765914708656?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/2830726765914708656/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=2830726765914708656' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/2830726765914708656'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/2830726765914708656'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/07/puhuuko-jumala-sinulle.html' title='Puhuuko jumala sinulle?'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-1855656943392780755</id><published>2007-07-11T10:03:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-11T10:18:07.276-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Kuvia</title><content type='html'>&lt;img src="http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/jesus-and-dinosaur1.jpg"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/jesus-vs-darwin.jpg"&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-1855656943392780755?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/1855656943392780755/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=1855656943392780755' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/1855656943392780755'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/1855656943392780755'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/07/kuvia.html' title='Kuvia'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-6331017111008096849</id><published>2007-07-11T08:09:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-11T08:10:45.576-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='usko jeesus aurinko'/><title type='text'>Sun of God?</title><content type='html'>Vertailussa kristinusko ja auringonpalvonta.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/QQ-kvw1fYXs"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/QQ-kvw1fYXs" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-6331017111008096849?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/6331017111008096849/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=6331017111008096849' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/6331017111008096849'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/6331017111008096849'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/07/sun-of-god.html' title='Sun of God?'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-949416159734535544</id><published>2007-07-10T10:15:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-07-10T11:05:16.590-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='usko kirjat'/><title type='text'>Luettua</title><content type='html'>Kevään mittaan tullut luettua muutama aiheeseen liittyvä kirja, joista muutama lyhyt kommentti.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;D.C. Dennett - Breaking the spell: Relogion as a natural phenomenon&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dennett tutkii uskontoa kiihkottomasti, ainakin osittain meemiteoriaa apunaan käyttäen. Välillä tietoinen varovaisuus johtaa hieman turhiin jaaritteluihin, mutta Dennett ei olekaan kirjoittanut kirjaa minulle, vaan uskovaisille. Päätarkoituksena on vakuuttaa uskovaiset, että myös uskontojen tutkiminen ja niistä väittely tulee olla sallittua. Nimenomaan rationaalisesti, kiihkottomasti ja tosiasioiden valossa. Voipi olla liikaa vaadittu, mutta hyvä kirja kuitenkin.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;S. Harris - Letter to a Christian Nation&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Erinomainen, tiivis paketti tietoa ja argumentteja uskosta. Suosittelen jokaiselle, niin paatuneelle ateistille kuin uskovaisellekkin.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;R. Dawkins - A Devil's Chaplain&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dawkinsin kirjoituksia tieteestä, rakkaudesta, uskosta... Monipuolinen, positiivisesti innostava ja jopa lohduttava. Verrattuna esimerkiksi Harrisin The End of Faith -kirjaan, tämä kirja saa useasti hyvälle tuulelle, innostumaan tieteestä, totuudesta, elämästä. (No menipä taas...;)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-949416159734535544?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/949416159734535544/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=949416159734535544' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/949416159734535544'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/949416159734535544'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/07/luettua.html' title='Luettua'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-7137547559287564998</id><published>2007-06-29T06:48:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-06-29T06:53:10.537-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='usko jumala uskonto'/><title type='text'>Minun uskonto</title><content type='html'>Minun Uskonnon pyhin sakramentti on se, että jo pelkkä muiden uskontojen olemassaolo loukkaa minua suuresti. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ja Minun Uskoa sinun tulee kunnioittaman! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sillä jos et ole Minun Uskovainen, et voi ymmärtää meille pyhiä asioita, et voi ymmärtää kuinka kaikki muut uskonnot loukkaavat minua ja jumalaani.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ja Minun Uskoa sinun tulee kunnioittaman!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-7137547559287564998?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/7137547559287564998/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=7137547559287564998' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/7137547559287564998'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/7137547559287564998'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/06/minun-uskonto.html' title='Minun uskonto'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-3689736318534791123</id><published>2007-05-22T09:05:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-05-22T09:14:35.511-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sam harris the end of faith'/><title type='text'>The End of "The End of Faith"</title><content type='html'>&lt;img src="http://www.simonsays.com/assets/isbn/0743268091/C_0743268091.jpg"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tästä Sam Harrisin (vai Harriksen? ;) kirjasta on kirjoitettu paljon. No, lisään oman lusikkani soppaan, tai ainakin dippaan sitä sinne.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;Kirja on hyvä, jopa liian hyvä. Harris heittää niin kylmää faktaa, että välillä ihan ahdistaa lukea. Tällainenko maailma on?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirjan lopusta en pidä. Harris tuntuu harjoittavan uskovaisilta tuttua "god of gaps" -argumentointia kirjoittaessaan tietoisuudesta ja spirituaalisuudesta. Emme tunne asiaa tarpeeksi, joten joku "länsimaisten tieteiden" ylenkatsoma totuus siellä täytyy olla.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mutta kirja on tästäkin huolimatta erittäin hyvä. Mielenkiintoista luettavaa kaikille uskonnoista ja moraalista kiinnostuneille.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-3689736318534791123?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/3689736318534791123/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=3689736318534791123' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/3689736318534791123'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/3689736318534791123'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/05/end-of-end-of-faith.html' title='The End of &quot;The End of Faith&quot;'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-1383668367828101938</id><published>2007-05-12T22:37:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-05-12T23:03:57.619-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='usko huumori'/><title type='text'>Huumoria</title><content type='html'>Jo edellisessä postauksessa mainostamaltani sivustolta....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.abarnett.demon.co.uk/atheism/"&gt;http://www.abarnett.demon.co.uk/atheism/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Alternative Ten Commandments:&lt;br /&gt;7.  Thou shalt not get upset by jokes about thy God. He is big enough and old enough to looketh after himself. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Etiketistä rajan toisella puolen:&lt;br /&gt;    * Do not ask the Angelic Choir if they know any Black Sabbath.&lt;br /&gt;    * Pointing and laughing at the sinners in Hell below is extremely bad manners, no matter how much they deserve it.&lt;br /&gt;    * Hanging around the Pearly Gates to see the look on the faces of atheists, Hindus, Muslims etc. is frowned upon in polite circles. This folly can only be compounded if you also wear an "I told you so!" T-Shirt.&lt;br /&gt;    * You should refrain from wearing your crucifix necklace - certain Important people have unpleasant memories about those things...&lt;br /&gt;    * Use your Angelic Visitation Rights wisely, and not for such things as haunting castles, spooking people you didn't like, or "haunting" changing-rooms.&lt;br /&gt;    * Also, Adam and Eve are requesting that people stop asking them about "the apple incident". &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.abarnett.demon.co.uk/atheism/humour_index.htm"&gt;Lisää&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;edit: Heti tämän postauksen jälkeen tuli hirvittävä mahakipu! Merkki?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-1383668367828101938?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/1383668367828101938/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=1383668367828101938' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/1383668367828101938'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/1383668367828101938'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/05/huumoria.html' title='Huumoria'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-8994260943854884348</id><published>2007-05-12T05:21:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-05-12T05:22:54.080-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Evoluutioteoriaa tyhmille</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.abarnett.demon.co.uk/atheism/evolution.html"&gt;Evoluutioteoriaa tyhmille&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hei, minäkin ymmärsin!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-8994260943854884348?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/8994260943854884348/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=8994260943854884348' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/8994260943854884348'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/8994260943854884348'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/05/evoluutioteoriaa-tyhmille.html' title='Evoluutioteoriaa tyhmille'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-8067705184890511410</id><published>2007-05-11T13:32:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-05-11T22:22:48.078-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ID science religion'/><title type='text'>Ken Miller on Intelligent Design</title><content type='html'>Kristitty tiedemies pui ID:tä. Erinomainen luento aiheesta.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/JVRsWAjvQSg"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/JVRsWAjvQSg" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Käydään läpi mm. seuraavat argumentit:&lt;br /&gt;- evoluutio on vain teoria&lt;br /&gt;- tieteellisten teorioiden määritelmät (Esim. Michael Behe pitää atsrologiaa tieteenä. Tällainen laajennus tarvitaan, jotta ID saataisiin myös mukaan.)&lt;br /&gt;- fossiililöydöt eivät tue evoluutiota, koska välimuotoja ei löydy&lt;br /&gt;- ihmisillä on 46 kromosomia, apinoilla 48&lt;br /&gt;- irreducible complexity (The bacterial flagellum yms.)&lt;br /&gt;- ID on tieteellinen teoria, eikä osa uskonnollista oppia&lt;br /&gt;- tiedeyhteisö vainoaa ID-teoriaa&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-8067705184890511410?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/8067705184890511410/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=8067705184890511410' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/8067705184890511410'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/8067705184890511410'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/05/ken-miller-on-intelligent-design.html' title='Ken Miller on Intelligent Design'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-7228669543483498902</id><published>2007-05-05T22:16:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-05-05T23:54:44.495-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ateismi hitler stalin'/><title type='text'>Hitler oli ateisti!</title><content type='html'>Yksi uskovaisten lempiargumenteista ateismia vastaan on muistuttaa Natsi-Saksan ja Neuvostoliiton olleen ateistisia valtioita, mikä teki niistä murhanhimoisia tappokoneistoja (tämä klassikko on tainnut esiintyä jo tämänkin blogin &lt;a href="http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/03/kenelle-jeesus-uhrattiin.html#comment-2093297651638464270"&gt;kommenteissa&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Argumentissa on muutama ongelma, joita yritän tässä tuoda esille.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ensinnäkin, suurin massamurhaaja on tietenkin Jumala itse, hänhän tappoi kaiken maanpäällisen elämän suurella tulvallaan, koska huomasi että "&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;ei perhana, ei tästä nyt oikein tullut semmoinen, kun etukäteen ajattelin, joku tässä nyt meni pieleen...&lt;/span&gt;"&lt;br /&gt;No, itse en osaa olla kuvitteelliselle hahmolle tästä vihainen, uskovaisten ehkä pitäisi olla.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hitlerin Saksa:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Natsit eivät perustelleet holokaustia ateismilla. Tämä on oikeasti merkittävä ero esimerkiksi inkvisitioon/ristiretkiin yms. verrattuna. Tämä on merkittävä ero nykyajan terroristeihin. He kertovat meille, ad nauseam, tekevänsä tekonsa jonkun jumalan nimeen. He perustelevat tekonsa pyhillä kirjoituksilla ja uskontonsa opeilla. Toki, poliittisen korrektiuden nimissä ollaan aina valmiina etsimään "monimutkaisia, taloudellisia, historiallisia ja poliittisia syitä" tekojen takaa. Näillä voi olla osuutensa, mutta uskonsotaa käyvien oman tunnustuksen mukaan he tekevät kaiken jumalan nimissä (Mikä on muuten se kaikkivaltias jumala, joka jatkuvasti tarvitsee kuolevaisten suojelua, kuolevaisia pitämään puoliaan ja käymään sotia puolestaan? Ihmetyttää...)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. Natsi-Saksa, tai Hitler itse, ei ollut rationalisuuten perustuva valtio/henkilö. Hitler ja hänen lähipiirinsä uskoivat astrologiaan, perustelivat tekojaan ja valtaansa joskus Kohtalolla, joskus myös jumalalla. Hitler puhui  itsestään välillä katolilaisena. Eikä katolinen kirkko missään vaiheessa, ei edes sodan jälkeen, julistanut yhtään natsia pannaan tms. (Tätä voi verrata siihen, että vielä niinkin myöhään kuin 1948 paavi katsoi aiheelliseksi lisätä Descartesin Meditations -kirjan kiellettyjen kirjojen listaan. edit: &lt;a href="http://news.monstersandcritics.com/europe/article_1070798.php/Vatican_opens_up_secrets_of_Index_of_Forbidden_Books?page=1"&gt;Mein Kampf&lt;/a&gt; ei koskaan joutunut tälle listalle. Luulisi, että paavilla olisi ollut pahempiakin kirjoja/tekoja tuomittavana?) Natsismi oli täysin irrationaalinen, osittain mytologiaan ja myytteihin perustuva, sokeaa uskoa ja uskollisuutta vaativa oppi. (Kuulostaako tutulta?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. Mikä sai saksalaiset mukaan hirmutekoihin? Hehän olivat sentään kristittyjä! (Tämä unohdetaan usein, kun puhutaan siitä, kuinka kristityt ovat moraaliltaan ylivertaisia...)&lt;br /&gt;Kristinusko oli vuosisatoja istuttanut saksalaisten mieliin mitä mielikuvituksellisempia tarinoita &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_libel_against_Jews"&gt;juutalaisten, Jeesuksen tappajien, pahuudesta&lt;/a&gt;. Katolinen kirkko antoi tämän kaiken jatkua aikana, jolloin sen vaikutusvalta oli suurimmillaan ja harhaoppisia muuten poltettiin hyvinkin herkästi. Tämän jälkeen natseilta ei vaadittu kovinkaan suuria ponnisteluja kansan vakuuttamiseksi juutalaisten pahuudesta.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansallissosialismi#Kansallissosialismi_ja_uskonto"&gt;Kansallissosialismi ja uskonto&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ja samat asiat pätevät myös Neuvostoliittoon: irrationaalisuus, dogmatismi, henkilökultti, uskonnollinen anti-semitismi...&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-7228669543483498902?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/7228669543483498902/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=7228669543483498902' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/7228669543483498902'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/7228669543483498902'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/05/hitler-oli-ateisti.html' title='Hitler oli ateisti!'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-6334244427812008045</id><published>2007-05-05T12:21:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-05-05T23:45:02.566-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='usko uskonto'/><title type='text'>Piilottakaa naiset ja lapset, uskonto tulee!</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=452288&amp;amp;in_page_id=1811"&gt;A 17-year-old girl has been stoned to death in Iraq because she loved a teenage boy of the wrong religion&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sam Harris on sanonut jotain seuraavan kaltaista (ei ole suora lainaus):&lt;br /&gt;"religion is a travesty of good ethical behavior, something he attributes to the tendency of religion to decouple the concept of morality from issues of actual human suffering."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kyllä. Jumala on aina niin huolissaan siitä, mitä ihmiset tekevät ilman housuja, että vähän väliä joku pitää kivittää. Kärsimys/nautinto on tässä toissijainen moraalin kannalta.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-6334244427812008045?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/6334244427812008045/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=6334244427812008045' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/6334244427812008045'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/6334244427812008045'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/05/piilottakaa-naiset-ja-lapset-uskonto.html' title='Piilottakaa naiset ja 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href="http://www.evl.fi/raamattu/1992/Matt.5.html#v17"&gt;17&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; "Älkää luulko, että minä olen tullut lakia tai profeettoja kumoamaan. En minä ole tullut kumoamaan, vaan toteuttamaan.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;a name="18" href="http://www.evl.fi/raamattu/1992/Matt.5.html#v18"&gt;18&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; Totisesti: laista ei häviä yksikään kirjain, ei pieninkään piirto, ennen kuin taivas ja maa katoavat, ennen kuin kaikki on tapahtunut.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;a name="19" href="http://www.evl.fi/raamattu/1992/Matt.5.html#v19"&gt;19&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; Sitä, joka jättää laista pois yhdenkin käskyn, vaikkapa kaikkein vähäisimmän, ja siten opettaa, kutsutaan taivasten valtakunnassa vähäisimmäksi. Mutta sitä, joka noudattaa lakia ja niin opettaa, kutsutaan taivasten valtakunnassa suureksi.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;a name="20" href="http://www.evl.fi/raamattu/1992/Matt.5.html#v20"&gt;20&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; Minä sanon teille: ellette te noudata Jumalan tahtoa paljon paremmin kuin lainopettajat ja fariseukset, te ette pääse taivasten valtakuntaan.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ja jos ei pääse taivasten valtakuntaan...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a name="41"&gt;Matteus 25.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;41. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Sitten hän myös sanoo vasemmalla puolellaan oleville: '&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Menkää pois minun tyköäni, te kirotut, siihen iankaikkiseen tuleen, joka on valmistettu perkeleelle ja hänen enkeleillensä&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="font-style: italic;" name="42"&gt;42. &lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Sillä minun oli nälkä, ja te ette antaneet minulle syödä; minun oli jano, ja te ette antaneet minulle juoda; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="font-style: italic;" name="43"&gt;43. &lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;minä olin outo, ja te ette ottaneet minua huoneeseenne; minä olin alaston, ja te ette vaatettaneet minua; sairaana ja vankeudessa, ja te ette käyneet minua katsomassa.' &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="font-style: italic;" name="44"&gt;44. &lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Silloin hekin vastaavat sanoen: 'Herra, milloin me näimme sinut nälkäisenä tai janoisena tai outona tai alastonna tai sairaana tai vankeudessa, emmekä sinua palvelleet?' &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="font-style: italic;" name="45"&gt;45. &lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Silloin hän vastaa heille ja sanoo: 'Totisesti minä sanon teille: kaiken, minkä olette jättäneet tekemättä yhdelle näistä vähimmistä, sen te olette jättäneet tekemättä minulle'. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="font-style: italic;" name="46"&gt;46. &lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Ja nämä menevät pois &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;iankaikkiseen rangaistukseen&lt;/span&gt;, mutta vanhurskaat iankaikkiseen elämään.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/fastshow/characters/images/patrick_nice.jpg" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'...and I was rummaging around in the attic and I found the original copy of the Bible. Which was nice.'&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'The old preaching game? All the kneeling and praying? Hardest game in the world. Done it meself, you see.'&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/fastshow/characters/images/archie2.jpg" /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-6274582443215105286?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/6274582443215105286/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=6274582443215105286' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/6274582443215105286'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/6274582443215105286'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/04/vanha-testamentti-rulettaa.html' title='Vanha Testamentti rulettaa!'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-660252656640417661</id><published>2007-04-28T08:01:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-04-28T08:50:26.491-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ateismi usko onni'/><title type='text'>Mitä ateismi on minulle antanut?</title><content type='html'>(Huom! Vaikka ateismi olisi antanut minulle kuun taivaalta, se ei tekisi siitä "totta".)&lt;br /&gt;Usein ateismia pidetään kyynisyydeen ja epätoivon mielentilana. Ateismi ei lupaa kuoleman jälkeistä elämää, ei kerro tarinaa täydellisestä rakkaudesta jne. Ateismi on epätoivoa. Minä näen asian toisin.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Vapauden, turvallisuuden ja kontrollin tunne.&lt;br /&gt;Raamatun, tai minkään muunkaan "pyhän kirjan", mukaan eläminen on vaikeaa niiden ristiriitaisuuksien ja epäselvien ohjeiden takia. Suuttuuko jumala, jos en kivitä sapattina töitä tekeviä? Uskonko tarpeeksi lujasti, onko uskoni aitoa? Kävikö synti mielessäni? Jumalalla tuntuu olevan hyvin paljon syitä määrätä ihminen kivitettäväksi tai helvettiin.&lt;br /&gt;Ateistin ei tarvitse pelätä vaikeaselkoisen ja julman jumalan mielivaltaisia oikkuja. Voi elää elämäänsä rauhassa, ajattelematta, mitä kaikkea jumala on minunkin varalta suunnitellut. Minä teen elämästäni mitä haluan (toki yhteiskunta ja omat rahkeet asettavat ehtoja), jos epäonnistun, epäonnistun. Jos onnistun, olen tehnyt sen itse, ei jumala.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. Opettanut arvostamaan elämää.&lt;br /&gt;Meillä on varmasti tämä yksi elämä, tee elämästäsi merkityksekäs ja onnellinen. Ei pidä ajatella tuonpuoleista, vaan elää tässä ja nyt. Jos hyvin käy, voi jättää jälkeensä kauniin meemin, joka kulkee ihmisten mielissä pitkään ja aiheuttaa näille onnea.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. Kirjoitan myöhemmin lisää, jos viitsin. Jos haluat kertoa omasi, pistä kommentteihin.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-660252656640417661?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/660252656640417661/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=660252656640417661' title='10 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/660252656640417661'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/660252656640417661'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/04/mit-ateismi-on-minulle-antanut.html' title='Mitä ateismi on minulle antanut?'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>10</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-6597222151591589729</id><published>2007-04-28T01:53:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-04-28T01:58:12.604-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='The Prayer of Obedience and Blind Faith'/><title type='text'>The Prayer of Obedience and Blind Faith</title><content type='html'>En tiedä mitä sanoa. Tämä on juuri sitä pelottavaa sokeaa uskoa, josta mm. Dawkins ja Harris ovat puhuneet.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://teamofjesus.net/wordpress/"&gt;http://teamofjesus.net/wordpress/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"&lt;strong style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Prayer of Obedience and Blind Faith&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;p style="font-style: italic;"&gt;We are sorry about the low quality of sound but when God gives us money, we’ll buy a new high quality microphone. But the message is very important. I hope you will sense the Holy Spirit in it.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a style="font-style: italic;" href="http://www.teamofjesus.net/mp3/the_prayer_of_obedience_and_blind_faith.mp3"&gt;Download or listen sermon:&lt;strong&gt; The Prayer of Obedience and Blind Faith&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;"&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-6597222151591589729?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/6597222151591589729/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=6597222151591589729' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/6597222151591589729'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/6597222151591589729'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/04/prayer-of-obedience-and-blind-faith.html' title='The Prayer of Obedience and Blind Faith'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-1972172629794037302</id><published>2007-04-26T06:10:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-04-26T06:20:31.583-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='usko jumala uskonto'/><title type='text'>Suvaitse uskonnollista suvaitsemattomutta!</title><content type='html'>Hesarin mielipidesivulta tänään (26.4.2007):&lt;br /&gt;"&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;EI TASA-ARVOA OLE MUUTENKAAN&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Suomessa on uskonnon- ja mielipiteen vapaus. Saa olla mitä mieltä haluaa. Miksi se ei koske sitä, mitä  mieltä on pappisviroista? Miksi ei kunnioiteta niiden mielipidettä, jotka eivät naispappeutta hyväksy?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Heillä on täysi oikeus ajatteluunsa. Luulisi, että naisilla on parempaakin tekemistä kuin ruveta papiksi tai mennä armeijaan...&lt;/span&gt;"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Olen samaa mieltä, naisilla on parempaakin tekemistä kuin ryhtyä papiksi.&lt;br /&gt;Tuskin kukaan on vaatinut, ettei naispappeutta saisi vastustaa, tai sanoa mielipidettään ääneen.&lt;br /&gt;Uskolla voi perustella (tai oikeastaan jättää perustelematta) mitä tahansa mielipidettä (myös valtion tukemassa kirkossa), oli se kuinka syrjivä tahansa. Mutta jos tilanne on toisinpäin, puhutaan siitä, kuinka jokaisen vakaumusta tulisi "kunnioittaa".&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-1972172629794037302?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/1972172629794037302/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=1972172629794037302' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/1972172629794037302'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/1972172629794037302'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/04/suvaitse-uskonnollista.html' title='Suvaitse uskonnollista suvaitsemattomutta!'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-841647556403605022</id><published>2007-04-26T03:46:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-04-26T03:56:12.448-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='religion usko uskonto jumala'/><title type='text'>Surullista...</title><content type='html'>Äiti rakastaa poikaansa, Jumala ei, koska tämä on homo.&lt;br /&gt;Ja mihin tämä kaikki johtaa...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Just recently my son Bobby came out to me. I had been worried for awhile. His teachers said most of his grades were slipping and he seemed depressed and withdrawn. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; Bobby said he'd been hiding it for awhile because he was afraid I would reject him. I sat him down and told him that I loved him and that God loved him, but that his salvation was in danger if he did not resist his unnatural tempations. I told him how being gay would mean he would live a shorter life, and that if he couldnt change his orientation he could be celibate like most the ex-gays are. He started crying saying something along the lines of "I knew you wouldnt understand! You're just like everyone else!" before running to his room and slamming the door. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; What did I do wrong? I dont want to lose my son, but I fear I already have. I talked it over with his therapist, who had the ludicrous idea that homosexuality was unchangable and that trying to repress could lead to lots of psychological damage (I've dropped him and will try to be finding another therapist with more moral beliefs). I wouldnt be surprised if he's the one who's feeding my son all the homosexual propaganda about how its 'ok' to be gay. That, or how homosexuality has engulfed the media, making it seem 'cool' and 'hip' and how they were just another oppressed minority. You didnt have to worry about seeing two men making out on tv at my age! I dont want to sound like a fanatic, but Im worried what other effects will come out of this increasingly secular, immoral society obsessed with filth. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; Am I too late? Or is it possible to save my son&lt;/span&gt;"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.freejesus.net/home/viewtopic.php?p=43639#43639"&gt;Lopulta poika tappoi itsensä&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Vain uskolle annetaan oikeus sokaista ihmisiä näin kohtalokkaasti. Vain uskoville annetaan oikeus vedota täysin järjettömään kirjaan ilman mitään vaateita rationalisuudesta/todisteista, oli sitten kyse moraalista, biologiasta tms. Jokainen muu joutuu perustelemaan kantansa, uskoville riittää, että he sanovat asiasta löytyvän jotain Raamatusta (yleensä seurakuntien vanhimpien tulkinnat sotkevat juttua entisestään). Ja tätä uskoa meidän tulee vielä kunnioittaa.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://fstdt.com/top100.asp"&gt;Fundies say the darnest things&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-841647556403605022?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/841647556403605022/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=841647556403605022' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/841647556403605022'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/841647556403605022'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/04/surullista.html' title='Surullista...'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-6782499529758299304</id><published>2007-04-22T01:29:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-04-22T01:34:54.221-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='evangelist usko uskonto'/><title type='text'>Lisää hauskuutta!</title><content type='html'>Vakavan asian äärellä on välillä hyvä naurahtaa.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="onion_embed headline"&gt;&lt;a class="img" target="theonion" href="http://www.theonion.com/content/news/street_evangelist_saves_300_souls?utm_source=Distributed&amp;utm_medium=Embedded%2BHTML&amp;amp;utm_campaign=Widgets"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Street-Evangelist-thumb.frontpage_thumbnail_small.jpg.jpg" alt="Street Evangelist Saves 300 Souls From Enjoying Park" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;h2&gt;&lt;a target="theonion" href="http://www.theonion.com/content?utm_source=Distributed&amp;utm_medium=Embedded%2BHTML&amp;amp;utm_campaign=Widgets"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.theonion.com/content/themes/onion/assets/logos/onion_super_tiny.png" alt="The Onion" height="12" width="92" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;h3 style="font-size: 20px ! important; line-height: 19px ! important;"&gt;&lt;a target="theonion" href="http://www.theonion.com/content/news/street_evangelist_saves_300_souls?utm_source=Distributed&amp;utm_medium=Embedded%2BHTML&amp;amp;utm_campaign=Widgets"&gt;Street Evangelist Saves 300 Souls From Enjoying Park&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;style type="text/css"&gt;.onion_embed {background: rgb(256, 256, 256) !important;border: 4px solid rgb(65, 160, 65);border-width: 4px 0 1px 0;margin: 10px 30px !important;padding: 5px;overflow: hidden !important;zoom: 1;}.onion_embed img {border: 0 !important;}.onion_embed a {display: inline;}.onion_embed a.img {float: left !important;margin: 0 5px 0 0 !important;width: 66px;display: block;overflow: hidden !important;}.onion_embed a.img img {border: 1px solid #222 !important;;width: 64px;;padding: 0 !important;;}.onion_embed h2 {line-height: 2px;;clear: none;;margin: 0 !important;padding: 0 !important;}.onion_embed h3 {line-height: 16px;font: bold 16px arial, sans-serif !important;margin: 3px 0 0 0 !important;padding: 0 !important;}.onion_embed h3 a {line-height: 16px !important;;color: rgb(0, 51, 102) !important;font: bold 16px arial, sans-serif !important;text-decoration: none !important;display: inline !important;;float: none !important;;text-transform: capitalize !important;}.onion_embed h3 a:hover {text-decoration: underline !important;color: rgb(204, 51, 51) !important;}.onion_embed p {color: #000 !important;;font: normal 11px/ 11px arial, sans-serif !important;;margin: 2px 0 0 0 !important;;padding: 0 !important;}.onion_embed a {display: inline !important;;float: none !important;}&lt;/style&gt;&lt;img src="http://statistics.theonion.com/b/ss/theonionprod/1/H.6--NS/1234567?pe=lnk_d&amp;pev2=Street%20Evangelist%20Saves%20300%20Souls%20From%20Enjoying%20Park&amp;amp;pev1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theonion.com%2Fcontent%2Fnews%2Fstreet_evangelist_saves_300_souls%3Futm_source%3DDistributed%26utm_medium%3DEmbedded%252BHTML%26utm_campaign%3DWidgets" style="display: none;" height="1" width="1" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;SAN FRANCISCO—Open-air preacher "Brother Sam" Hilson rescued more than 300 of God's children from appreciating a cloudless spring day at Golden Gate Park Tuesday by informing them of their sins and the swift approach of Judgment Day.&lt;br /&gt;...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Many of those who have been singled out by Hilson confirm the attention had a direct impact on their lives.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"It was my first weekday off in a while, so I thought I'd enjoy the nice weather, maybe head down to the waterfront too," said Russ Tiderington, 25, who, according to Hilson, "sashay[ed] [his] hips like a painted Jezebel." "But I decided to go home and catch up on some chores instead."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-6782499529758299304?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/6782499529758299304/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=6782499529758299304' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/6782499529758299304'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/6782499529758299304'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/04/lis-hauskuutta.html' title='Lisää hauskuutta!'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-8128832580930277102</id><published>2007-04-21T12:22:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-04-21T12:55:04.542-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Hauskoja videoita II</title><content type='html'>Osuvia. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Religion ala Eddie Izzard&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Ope-1Zb5t-k"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Ope-1Zb5t-k" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Eddie Izzard - Easter and Christmas&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/_XJfRzNOJNE"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/_XJfRzNOJNE" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Eddie Izzard on Christmas&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/cNqH6dCPe_s"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/cNqH6dCPe_s" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Eddie Izzard - St. Paul's letters&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/eoBYYElyP4c"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/eoBYYElyP4c" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Eddie Izzard - Creation&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/n3REuen54jA"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/n3REuen54jA" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-8128832580930277102?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/8128832580930277102/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=8128832580930277102' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/8128832580930277102'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/8128832580930277102'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/04/hauskoja-videoita-ii.html' title='Hauskoja videoita II'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-9048290922959383790</id><published>2007-04-21T12:02:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-04-21T12:21:32.609-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Hauskoja videoita</title><content type='html'>Mr. Deity (Tähän mennessä ilmestynyt 10 jaksoa, katso kaikki!)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Qzf8q9QHfhI"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Qzf8q9QHfhI" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;George Carlin - Religion&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/FuzIFG-2Pd0"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/FuzIFG-2Pd0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jim Gaffigan and religion&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/TX9XLv7AbHI"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/TX9XLv7AbHI" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-9048290922959383790?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/9048290922959383790/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=9048290922959383790' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/9048290922959383790'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/9048290922959383790'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/04/hauskoja-videoita.html' title='Hauskoja videoita'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-6547413685567101478</id><published>2007-04-21T11:02:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-04-21T11:50:22.312-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='usko jumala uskonto'/><title type='text'>Selataanpa uskonto-blogeja...</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Lähden selaamaan blogilistan uskonto/jumala/usko -blogeja, katsotaan, mitä löytyy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://teamofjesus.net/wordpress/"&gt;1. http://teamofjesus.net/wordpress/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Ensimmäinen blogi, ensimmäinen kirjoitus:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;“Jeesus, vahvista minun uskoani”&lt;br /&gt;Epäilys on synti, jota Jumala vihaa.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Jos jumala olisi kaikkea sitä, mitä hänen sanotaan, tuskin ihmisen epäilys olisi jumallalle niin kova pala, miksi olisi. Sen sijaan uskonnot, ja uskovaiset, tarvitsevat sokeaa uskoa todisteista huolimatta, jotta niiden/heidän järjetön rakennelmansa ei kaatuisi.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://uskova.vuodatus.net/"&gt;2. http://uskova.vuodatus.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Jumala on rakastanut meitä niin paljon, että antoi ainokaisen poikansa, ettei yksikään, joka häneen uskoo hukkuisi, vaan hänellä olisi iankaikkinen elämä.&lt;/span&gt;"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kenelle antoi, kysyn edelleen? Ja jälleen usko on pelastumisen ehto. Tee mitä haluat, kunhan uskot.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;-Uskonpuhdistus on oikeastaan ollut lähetystyön ensimmäisiä muotoja (vaikka uskonpuhdistus oli pikemmin kuitenkin valtionkirkon juurruttamista maiden pakanallisten alamaisten keskuuteen kuin varsinaista lähetystyötä), ja pakanauskonnot yritettiin kitkeä kansasta, joskus jopa miekkaan tarttuen. Jo silloin toteutettiin lähetyskäskyä, menkää ja tehkää kaikki kansat minun opetuslapsikseni. (Matt. 28:19).&lt;/span&gt;"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pelottavaa.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://rukous.blogspot.com/"&gt;3. http://rukous.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;"&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Anna minulle voimia uskoa sinuun&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;ja kaikkeen mitä sinä olet.&lt;/span&gt;"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kyllä, voimia vaatii uskoa olemattomaan, mutta riittävällä itsesuggestiolla se kai onnistuu.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ja juuri tässä on uskontojen suurin ongelma. Lapsille opetataan, että kunhan jokin asia löytyy jostain pyhästä kirjasta, on hyve uskoa se kyseenalaistamatta. Kyseenalaistaminen voi tapahtua korkeintaan suuremman uskon löytämiseksi.  Tunnistamme tällaisen hulluuden ja sen seuraukset millä tahansa muulla elämänalueella, mutta emme uskonnoissa.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tätä suosittelen&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://uskoitseesi.blogs.fi/"&gt;http://uskoitseesi.blogs.fi/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-6547413685567101478?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/6547413685567101478/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=6547413685567101478' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/6547413685567101478'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/6547413685567101478'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/04/selataanpa-uskonto-blogeja.html' title='Selataanpa uskonto-blogeja...'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-6179379153867158080</id><published>2007-04-08T12:03:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-04-08T12:04:57.602-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Usko = hulluus?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.mtv3.fi/uutiset/ulkomaat.shtml/arkistot/ulkomaat/2007/04/518066"&gt;http://www.mtv3.fi/uutiset/ulkomaat.shtml/arkistot/ulkomaat/2007/04/518066&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Etiopiassa on Afrikan kolmanneksi eniten AIDS- ja HIV-potilaita. Arviolta 2:sta 3:een miljoonalla on HIV-tartunta. Tuhannet etiopialaiset yrittävät parantua AIDSista pyhällä vedellä."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-6179379153867158080?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/6179379153867158080/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=6179379153867158080' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/6179379153867158080'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/6179379153867158080'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/04/usko-hulluus.html' title='Usko = hulluus?'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-1221114079901088539</id><published>2007-04-07T23:45:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-04-07T23:50:11.945-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Jesus will survive!</title><content type='html'>&lt;object width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/fN1dPtEph2U"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/fN1dPtEph2U" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-1221114079901088539?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/1221114079901088539/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=1221114079901088539' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/1221114079901088539'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/1221114079901088539'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/04/jesus-will-survive.html' title='Jesus will survive!'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-6900523544542554820</id><published>2007-04-01T10:48:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-04-01T10:49:39.113-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='religion usko uskonto jumala'/><title type='text'>Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://www.evilbible.com/Top_Ten_List.htm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering.  And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers.  You consider that to be evidence that prayer works.  And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-6900523544542554820?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/6900523544542554820/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=6900523544542554820' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/6900523544542554820'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/6900523544542554820'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/04/top-ten-signs-youre-fundamentalist.html' title='Top Ten Signs You&apos;re a Fundamentalist Christian'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-3783251186046392814</id><published>2007-03-19T12:14:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-03-19T12:40:45.532-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='meemit uskonto meme faith'/><title type='text'>Meemit ja uskonto</title><content type='html'>Meemi on käyttökelpoinen käsite uskontoja, ja erityisesti niiden leviämistä, käsiteltäessä.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;"&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-family: georgia;"&gt;Examples of memes are tunes, ideas, catch-phrases, clothes fashions, ways of  making pots or of building arches.  Just as genes propagate themselves in  the gene pool by leaping from body to body via sperms or eggs, so memes  propagate themselves in the meme pool by leaping from brain to brain via a  process which, in the broad sense, can be called imitation.  If a  scientist hears, or reads about, a good idea, he passed it on to his  colleagues and students.  He mentions it in his articles and his  lectures.  If the idea catches on, it can be said to propagate itself,  spreading from brain to brain.  As my colleague N.K. Humphrey neatly  summed up an earlier draft of this chapter: `... memes should be regarded  as living structures, not just metaphorically but technically.(3)   When  you plant a fertile meme in my mind you literally parasitize my brain, turning  it into a vehicle for the meme's propagation in just the way that a virus may  parasitize the genetic mechanism of a host cell.   And this isn't just a  way of talking -- the meme for, say, "belief in life after death" is actually  realized physically, millions of times over, as a structure in the nervous  systems of individual men the world over.'&lt;/span&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.rubinghscience.org/memetics/dawkinsmemes.html"&gt;http://www.rubinghscience.org/memetics/dawkinsmemes.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Miten kristitty pelastuu? Siihen tarvitaan vain uskoa. Tämä on erityisen vaarallinen ja toisaalta kummallinenkin oppi/meemi. Jumala/Jeesus arvostaa ihmisessä eniten uskoa. Miksi ihmeessä se on niin tärkeää jumalalle? Se ei ole tärkeää jumalalle (edes sille kuvitteelliselle), vaan se on tärkeää uskonnolle. Se varmistaa uskonnon leviämisen ja säilymisen. Tekemällä uskosta hyveen uskonto selviää helpommin muiden elämänkatsomusten rinnalla. "Usko todisteista, tai niiden puuttumisesta, huolimatta."&lt;br /&gt;-&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: italic; text-align: justify;"&gt;"&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;font-family:arial;" &gt;Another member of the religious meme complex is called faith.  It means  blind trust, in the absence of evidence, even in the teeth of evidence.   The story of Doubting Thomas is told, not so that we shall admire Thomas, but  so that we can admire the other apostles in comparison.  Thomas demanded  evidence.  Nothing is more lethal for certain kinds of meme than a  tendency to look for evidence.  The other apostles, whose faith was so  strong that they did not need evidence, are held up to us as worthy of  imitation.  The meme for blind faith secures its own perpetuation by the  simple unconscious expedient of discouraging rational inquiry.    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;font-family:arial;" &gt;  Blind faith can justify anything.(7)   If a man believes in a different  god, or even if he uses a different ritual for worshipping the same god, blind  faith can decree that he should die -- on the cross, at the stake, skewered on  a Crusader's sword, shot in a Beirut street, or blown up in a bar in  Belfast.  Memes for blind faith have their own ruthless ways of  propagating themselves.  This is true of patriotic and political as well  as religious blind faith.&lt;/span&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.rubinghscience.org/memetics/dawkinsmemes.html"&gt;http://www.rubinghscience.org/memetics/dawkinsmemes.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-3783251186046392814?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/3783251186046392814/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=3783251186046392814' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/3783251186046392814'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/3783251186046392814'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/03/meemit-ja-uskonto.html' title='Meemit ja uskonto'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-5760631817178192731</id><published>2007-03-18T10:27:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-03-19T08:58:49.685-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='uhri'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jeesus'/><title type='text'>Kenelle Jeesus uhrattiin?</title><content type='html'>Tämä on ihmetyttänyt minua pitkään ja ihmetyttää edelleenkin.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Kenelle Jeesus uhrattiin?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Kuka vaati tämän uhrin, jotta me pelastuisimme? Jumala itse?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sitäpaitsi, mikä uhri se on, että on kuolleena kolme päivää? Toki ristiinnaulitseminen on ikävää, mutta silti. Jos vertaa niihin kristinuskon uhreihin, joita kertyi erityisesti keskiajalla aikamoinen määrä, niin aika helppoa, sanoisin. Kun ne kristinuskon uhrit ovat edelleen kuolleita, eivätkä ole saaneet korkeaa asemaa taivaallisessa hierarkiassa. Epistä.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Osaisiko joku kristitty vastata?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-5760631817178192731?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/5760631817178192731/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=5760631817178192731' title='9 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/5760631817178192731'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/5760631817178192731'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/03/kenelle-jeesus-uhrattiin.html' title='Kenelle Jeesus uhrattiin?'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>9</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-8451710352147602430</id><published>2007-03-18T07:59:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-03-18T08:17:13.748-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='richard dawkins'/><title type='text'>Richard Dawkins</title><content type='html'>Silläkin uhalla, että syytetään messiaan seuraamisesta, kirjoitan Richard Dawkinsista.&lt;br /&gt;Miksi?&lt;br /&gt;Siksi, että mies on pukenut sanoiksi paljon ateistien ajatuksia, paremmin kuin muut.&lt;br /&gt;Lisäksi hänen kirjansa ovat levinneet hyvin laajalle, joten ne toimivat hyvänä yhteisenä keskustelualustana.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Monet ateistit siteeraavat Dawkinsia ja hänestä on tullut yksi näkyvimpiä ateisteja maailmassa. Mikä erottaa hänet uskonnollisista johtajista?&lt;br /&gt;Tärkein ero on se, että Dawkinsin pitää perustella sanomansa. Hän ei voi, ei edes yritä, väittää jotain todeksi vain "koska se on totuus, pyhä kirja/henki/Jeesus sanoi niin."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://richarddawkins.net/home"&gt;http://richarddawkins.net/home&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dawkins kuvailee Vanhan Testamentin jumalaa.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/-wcG3yoSAdk"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/-wcG3yoSAdk" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-8451710352147602430?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/8451710352147602430/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=8451710352147602430' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/8451710352147602430'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/8451710352147602430'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/03/richard-dawkins.html' title='Richard Dawkins'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2389127825980398491.post-7234257507193970838</id><published>2007-03-18T05:49:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-03-18T10:26:33.469-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='usko'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ateismi'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ateism'/><title type='text'>Ateismi on uskonto!</title><content type='html'>Ateismi on (minulle) tapa suhtautua yliluonnolliseen, erityisemmin jumalaan. Se ei ole mitään muuta, se ei anna moraalisia ohjeita, ei oppia siitä, miten tulisi elää. Se on vain yksi osa ajatusmaailmaani. Suhtaun yhtä skeptisesti esim. astrologiaan kuin suhtaudun jumalaan.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ateistina en perusta kaikkea ajatteluani jollekkin ateismin "opille".  Ateismi ei ole ajatteluni perusta, vaan se on vain yksi johtopäätös. Ilman uskontoja tätä johtopäätöstä ei edes tarvitsisi tehdä.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Usein kun uskovien kanssa keskustelee ateismista, ensimmäinen syytös on "ateismi on uskonto sekin!". Tämä on huvittaa ainakin kahdella tavalla.&lt;br /&gt;Ensinnäkin, on jotain ristiriitaista siinä, että uskova ihminen syyttää ateistia uskosta tai ateismia uskonnoksi, ikään kuin siinä olisi jotain pahaa.&lt;br /&gt;Toisekseen, ateismi on uskonto samalla tavalla kuin se on harrastus, ettet pelaa shakkia. Eli, jos uskot, olet uskovainen. Jos et usko, olet uskovainen?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2389127825980398491-7234257507193970838?l=msieta.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/feeds/7234257507193970838/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2389127825980398491&amp;postID=7234257507193970838' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/7234257507193970838'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2389127825980398491/posts/default/7234257507193970838'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://msieta.blogspot.com/2007/03/ateismi-on-uskonto.html' title='Ateismi on uskonto!'/><author><name>M</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18006390776358868718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry></feed>
